In tonight’s YouTube interview, I sit down with New York filmmaker and parent advocate Natalya Murakhver, the producer behind the powerful documentary 15 Days, which forensically examines the school closures of 2020 and the forces that kept classrooms shut long after the science said they could safely reopen.

Natalya and I first met at the Genspect conference in Portugal in 2024, and we’ve stayed in contact since. The story she has uncovered in 15 Days is something every parent, teacher, and concerned citizen in New Zealand - and around the world - needs to hear. You will find your story in here somewhere, if you were a parent in 2020.

This story needed to be told

15 Days began with a simple but urgent question: if the evidence was clear that schools were safe, why did they stay closed for so long? Natalya, a self-described former progressive New York City Democrat, went looking for answers - and what she found was a web of union collusion, political manipulation, and coordinated propaganda.

“I knew that if we didn’t present the actual story, she [head of American Federation of Teachers] would be rewriting it.” - Natalya Murakhver, on why she made the film

The film reveals how teachers’ unions - particularly the American Federation of Teachers under Randy Weingarten - were not simply representing teachers. They were writing CDC guidance, pressuring the American Academy of Pediatrics to reverse its recommendation to reopen schools, and weaponising fear within communities. All while controlling $4 trillion in pension funds and receiving virtually no challenge from mainstream media.

The agenda hidden inside the lockdowns

What Natalya uncovered goes far deeper than just closed classrooms. When schools did reopen, parents were locked out. In their place came a flood of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) counsellors - hired with $189.5 billion in federal education funds - with no verified credentials, pushing children into climate activism, racial ideology, and collectivist thinking.

As Natalya reveals in the film, the head of the Los Angeles teachers’ union said plainly: “It doesn’t matter if our babies don’t know their times tables. They know the difference between a riot and a coup.” The goal, as Natalya concludes, was never education. It was ideological capture.

Marxist playbook - recognised by those who had seen it before

Born in the Soviet Union, Natalya draws sobering parallels between what she witnessed during COVID and life under totalitarianism - the illusion of consensus, the silencing of dissent, the separation of parent from child. And in our conversation, I share my own experience as a New Zealander grappling with the same psychological warfare.

“They weaponised us against each other - because what they were trying to say was your friend, your family member, could be a ball of something that could kill you. So you then saw each other differently.” - Penny Marie

What parents can do right now

Despite the weight of the subject matter, this conversation ends with hope. Natalya’s message to parents is practical and grounding: be an authoritative presence, bring your family back to the dinner table, protect your children from screen dependency, and build community - one small act at a time. As she says, “small actions are very, very meaningful, because while we can’t make a huge impact at the United Nations, we can make a huge impact in our own home.”

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Tune in tonight at 7pm NZ time on the Penny Marie NZ YouTube channel. Drop your thoughts in the comments - I’d love to know what resonates with you, especially as New Zealanders and Australians reflecting on your own lockdown experience.

🎬 15 Days is available to stream on Amazon, Google Play, YouTube, and iTunes, and DVDs and screening licences can be purchased at 15daysfilm.com. If you’re a community group, church, school network, or advocacy organisation - this is a film worth screening.

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A parent in New Zealand recently discovered that their child had been reciting prayers (karakia) to Māori gods five times a day at a standard state school. Not a kura. Not a Māori immersion school. A regular taxpayer-funded school that is, by law, supposed to be secular.

When that parent tried to have their child excused, they were made to ask - repeatedly - before being granted what should have been an obvious right from the start.

This is the story Steve Gibson brought to my show, and it’s one that is playing out in classrooms, council chambers, and workplaces across New Zealand right now.

Who is Steve Gibson?

Steve Gibson is a first-term elected councillor on the Hastings District Council and a former police officer in both New Zealand and Australia. He is not a firebrand. He is not extreme. He is, by his own description, a ‘centrist’ - someone who grew up in an era when New Zealanders of every background simply got on with each other.

But within weeks of joining his council, he found himself confronted with a NZ flag laid on a gallery floor with the words “please walk on me” written on it - and staff encouraging visitors to do exactly that. Then came powhiri after powhiri - council meetings held at marae clocking up unnecessary council expenses, in the middle of a cost of living crisis. And five karakia a day.

When the school story landed in his inbox, he posted about it. The post hit a chord on both sides of the situation. The trolls came. He was called a racist.

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Do we have cultural and religious freedom in New Zealand?

Let’s be honest about what’s actually being asked here. A child - whose parents were given no choice in the matter - is being required to stand, face the class, and recite prayers to Tangaroa (god of the sea), Tāne Māhuta (god of the forest), and other Māori atua (gods). Five times a day.

This is not a fringe concern. The New Zealand Bill of Rights guarantees freedom of belief and freedom of expression. International human rights frameworks affirm that parents are the primary educators of their children and have the right to choose the moral and religious environment in which they are raised.

And yet here we are - where asking whether five karakia a day in a state school is appropriate somehow makes you a racist.

It doesn’t. And most New Zealanders know it.

Steve spent his career in the police bending over backwards to support the culture. He learned to speak basic te reo, and was even on maori TV news at a crime scene. He genuinely respected the maori language and culture. Many of us did.

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Who is driving tribalism and division in NZ?

The issues Steve and I discuss are not coming from most Māori communities at the grassroots. It’s coming from the top down - through the teachers’ unions, activist organisations, and ultimately through international frameworks like UNDRIP and UN policy that have been deeply woven into our legislation and education curriculum.

When the Minister of Education recently moved to remove some Te Tiriti references from the Education and Training Act, the backlash didn’t come from parents. It came from the unions. The teachers’ unions - who are not parent-led, are not democratically accountable to your family, and operate as activist groups inside our schools.

What you can do

Steve’s advice is simple...

Stand up.

Stop sitting silently in the room while things are recited over you that you don’t believe in. Stop letting activist groups speak for your family’s values. You may feel alone but you’re not. Plenty of us see what’s going on.

• Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children. Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), Article 26 (3).

• The States Parties undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions. - International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), Article 18 (4).

The United Nations, despite its faults, has tools to assist families within the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC). New Zealand ratified the UNCRC in 1993, making it legally binding. These articles are relevant:

• Article 5 - States must respect the rights and duties of parents to provide guidance to their children in exercising their rights.

• Article 14 - Affirms children’s freedom of thought, conscience and religion, AND the rights and duties of parents to provide direction in the child’s religious formation.

• Article 18 - Gives parents primary responsibility for the upbringing and development of their child.

If your child’s school is conducting any religious observance without your consent, you have grounds to object. Find your local councillor, your MP, and make them hear you - calmly, clearly, with evidence.

Follow Steve on Facebook. He is one of the voices being brave enough to say this publicly, and he needs numbers behind him. Share this video, share this article, and start the conversation in your own community.

Because the silent majority has been silent long enough - and if we don’t start speaking now, we may find that we no longer know what our culture is anymore.

Watch my full interview with Steve Gibson. If this resonates with you, please share it widely. Expect trollers but don’t worry about them… they just demonstrate that we’re over the target. They troll because they don’t want us speaking the truth… not because we are wrong.

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This week Jamie Dally and I sat down with former National MP, NewZeal founder and freshly‑minted NZ First candidate Alfred Ngaro – a man who has quietly re‑entered the political arena at one of the most volatile moments in recent history.

In Winston Peters’ State of the Nation event last weekend, Alfred was never formally introduced from the podium. He s…

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On Feb 10 2026, “A coroner ruled that Highlanders and Māori All Blacks player Connor Garden-Bachop, a 25-year-old father of young twin girls, died of natural causes. Garden-Bachop died overnight on June 16, 2024” - NZ Herald.

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When silence hurts

In the coroner’s report released today, Connor’s sudden death in June 2024 is attributed to a mildly dilated heart causing an abnormal rhythm in his sleep, with no drugs, alcohol, or injuries involved and no suspicious circumstances. On paper, the case is now closed; a loving father of twin girls gone at 25, his passing officially framed as “natural causes.”

But for many in the rugby community, including those who loved Connor and Sean Wainui before him, that term does not quiet the deeper unease. The pattern they see - young, elite athletes dying suddenly - collides with a global backdrop where reports and public anxiety about “sudden deaths” among fit young people have sharpened since the rollout of Covid‑19 vaccination. Even as major cardiac and public‑health bodies say they do not see clear evidence of a spike in athlete cardiac deaths linked to vaccination, the suspicion and grief at ground level have not gone away.

It is into this contested space that Shane’s voice still speaks.

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Shane Christie’s unfinished fight

Before his own death, Shane used his voice to push for honesty about risk, safety, and the human cost of professional rugby. In his interview, he spoke softly but firmly about Sean Wainui’s car‑crash death, about Connor’s sudden passing, and about the way vaccination timelines and mandates were handled inside the game.

He did not claim to have all the answers, and he did not present himself as ‘anti‑vaccine’; he’d had three shots. He did, however, insist on something that now feels prophetic: that families deserve to know that every possible factor has been properly examined - including medical interventions mandated or strongly pressured by employers and the state.

Rugby and CTE brain-injuries

Shane was also passionate about pushing for a report to be released by NZRU because he believed its contents could keep players safer from concussion related injuries. In that piece, as in this conversation, Shane emerges not as a crusader looking for a fight, but as a man impacted by a system who isn’t putting player safety first. Shane believed in the power of truth to protect our future generations, and the integrity of the sport he loved.

Rugby, risk, and coercion

He recalled being in managed isolation and effectively told he could not leave without taking an injection he did not feel informed about. The message was clear: comply, or stay locked away indefinitely. Around him, other players heard the same thing in different words - contracts that never mentioned mandatory medical procedures suddenly interpreted as if they did, livelihoods and careers on the line if they hesitated.

What happened to informed consent?

The central concern in Shane’s story is not a simple causation claim between any particular vaccine and any particular death. It is the erosion of informed consent: the lack of transparent risk assessment before 2021, the reliance on official assurances later challenged by independent experts, and the sense that when things go wrong, those at the top are quicker to protect reputations than to ask uncomfortable questions.

Global patterns, local pain

Internationally, sporting bodies and cardiology experts have pushed back hard on the idea that there has been a proven surge in vaccine‑related sudden deaths among young athletes. Large‑scale reviews of cardiac arrests and death rates in this age group have not shown the kind of spike that social media narratives suggest, and studies looking at death certificates within defined time windows after vaccination have not found clear evidence of a causal link.

Yet statistics, however carefully collected, do not erase the lived reality of families who have buried healthy young people, or of teammates who go to sleep wondering if the same thing could happen to them. Coroner Mary‑Anne Borrowdale has now formally recorded Connor’s death as a sudden cardiac event in the context of a mildly dilated heart, a finding echoed by multiple outlets from RNZ to international wire services.

For some, that will bring closure; for others, it will deepen the sense that something doesn’t add up.

Unanswered questions on Covid19

Will the Royal Commission Inquiry into Covid19: Lessons Learned, shed any light? Here is a piece from an in-depth chat with Lynda Wharton from The Health Forum NZ on the NZ Government’s failure to be transparent with the NZ public over their contract with Pfizer. The RCI’s report is due out later this month.

Standing together after the whistle

What Shane wanted, more than anything, was for rugby to stop leaving its wounded in the shadows. He wanted NZ Rugby to front up about concussion, long‑term brain injury, and the accumulation of hits that players’ bodies and minds were quietly absorbing. He wanted medical decisions that affected players’ futures - from return‑to‑play protocols to new injections - to be made honestly, transparently, and with full respect for their right to say no.

Rugby has always sold us a story about standing shoulder‑to‑shoulder, about never leaving a mate behind. If Shane’s life and death, and Connor’s, and Sean’s, are to mean anything beyond the stat sheets, that story has to extend beyond the touchline - into coroners’ courts, boardrooms, and policy tables where real safety and real accountability are decided.

The excerpted conversation with Shane Christie that accompanies this piece is part of that work: not the final word, but a starting point for those who refuse to look away.

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Noted in this video is a reference to the RCI, the report of findings is due out on February 25, 2026. For advice or support contact NZDSOS or The Health Forum NZ. Shane was in regular contact with both of these organisations and mentions them in this video.

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Looking ahead to 2026

We’re heading into an election year in New Zealand… and while I focus my attention at the grassroots, we’re in some stormy waters in NZ and worldwide. I will be taking some time off (sort of) in January to distill down my focus areas for 2026, and how to achieve better life balance than I had in 2025. Because I’m in for the long haul and I don’t believe we’re meant to limp across the finish line broken, battered and bankrupt.

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Source of video and leaked NZDF training documents: United We Stand

This is the crux of the training material we look at in this video, and it raises serious questions about ideological capture, psychological warfare, and who gets to decide what “extremism” looks like inside our military.

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A fictional enemy that looks a lot like us

A leaked NZDF training pack sets its scenario in a made‑up country, but the map names – Murchison, Nelson, St Arnaud, “Rainbow” Ski Field – give the game away: this is New Zealand in all but name, and we hone in on the RAINBOW CONNECTION.

The “Visayan People’s Front” (VPF) is described as a “Christian extremist group” recruiting indigenous youth with promises of a “return to the traditional ways of a Christian nation,” explicitly mirroring Maori–Christian history and present‑day rural/urban political divides.

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Ideological capture and psychological operations

The script of the exercise reads like a cut‑and‑paste of today’s culture war: Christian so-called “extremists,” (which are VERY MUCH NOT), Islamic extremists, campus occupations, referendums, coups and armed factions, all woven together in a way that treats conservative or Christian worldviews as a security problem.

This as an example of fifth‑generation warfare: narrative, language and training materials being used to dehumanise, destabilise and push populations toward crisis so a pre‑baked “solution” can be imposed.

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Rainbow money, Pride Pledge, and NZDF

We connect the training scenario to NZDF’s broader DEI and rainbow commitments: Pride Pledge membership, compulsory “rainbow awareness” training, and the embedding of DEI language across policies, KPIs and leadership structures.

We obtained an OIA response showing NZDF spending roughly NZD $46,000 over three years on Pride Pledge fees alone, on top of internal time and other rainbow‑industry consultancy – public money underwriting an ideological programme, not just neutral “inclusion.”

The Brad in every organisation

We introduce Brad Poulter, a he/him, ex‑Navy, now in a strategic diversity role and a former chair of the NZDF rainbow network OverWatch, as profiled by the Rainbow Excellence Awards.

The point is not personal but systemic: Every large organisation with a Rainbow Tick or Pride Pledge will have one or more internal champions whose job is to operationalise DEI, sit in cross‑agency rainbow networks, and ensure that “rainbow KPIs” flow right up to executive leadership and into training.

Extremism, children, and the spiritual dimension

The latter half of the conversation widens out: From NZDF training to the police‑endorsed “Anti‑Transgender Extremism” guideline that effectively labels ordinary parents and critics of child medicalisation as extremists.

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Where to from here for New Zealanders?

We are making a call to New Zealanders to recognise that this is not abstract theory but a live battle over values, law and the safety of children and families. And Christians are firmly in the cross hairs.

Please check out our recent exposé following the ‘rainbow pot of gold’ within a mega iwi in New Zealand…

Our last word…

We’re sorry to bring you this hard news right before Christmas… please make sure you step away from the online noise over Christmas, ground yourselves in your faith, family and whenua. We are here because we love New Zealand, and we love New Zealanders.

Please return in 2026 prepared to speak up for what you believe in, increase your awareness of the ideological capture of institutions – including, uncomfortably, the NZ Defence Force itself.

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• A so-called ‘not political’ group who organised ‘Ban The Block’ protest in Auckland on December 7. This protest was against the NZ Govt’s announcement on pausing the use of puberty blockers for children diagnosed with ‘gender dysphoria’

• A North Island mega-iwi linked to this event

• One of this iwi’s subsidiary charities

• And how corporations and agencies throughout NZ are required to comply with the TQ industry’s belief and policies.

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References

• Larry Fink, CEO of BlackRock on Forced Behaviour

• RCR: David Charalambous on Behavioural Psychology

• Block The Ban Rally: A Report by Yvonne Van Dongen

• Citizen Of Auckland Silent Audits video of the Block The Ban event

• Ngāti Whatua Orakei

• Stats NZ LGBTIQ+ Report 2023

• Kāhui Tū Kaha

• Rainbow Tick - Tōitu Takatapui

• Pride Pledge

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It was a privilege to speak to the 300+ delegates about some of my latest research, where I connect the dots about what happened 30 years ago with the move to enshrine ‘gender’ into law.

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I look into who was behind it then, and the implications of this today, in New Zealand, throughout our policy, legislation and education system.

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References

• Ro Edge of Save Women’s Sports Australasia

• Shan Wilson, Kings College Board Chair and Partner at Simpson Grierson law firm

• Law Society NZ ‘Gender Equality Charter’ Signatories

• Hate Group Calling Us A Hate Group video

• Interview on The Platform about ‘Anti Transgender Extremism’ publication

• International Bill Of Gender Rights

• Yogyakarta Principles - 2006 and 2017

• Jennifer Bilek

• Background to the Yogyakarta Principles: Geoff Holloway, Researchgate

• Cass Report, by Hilary Cass UK

• Diversity Equity & Inclusion Plan 2024-25, Public Service Commission NZ

• Official Information Response from Ministry of Education, May 2025, detailing International resources being used in development of new RSE framework

• United Nations and WHO: International Technical Guidance On Sexuality Education

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Clarion call

Misty’s decision to speak up is part of her healing journey, but it so much more. It is a clarion call to the people of New Zealand. Many of us are by now aware of, or live with the dark secrets that our nation groans under the weight of.

In some homes, communities, marae, and extended families, New Zealanders grapple with generational abuse, substance abuse, incest, homelessness, neglect and more.

Many suffer in silence, not seeking help. Misty’s intention is that by sharing her story, viewers who have had similar past experiences, or are currently in an abusive situation, will be empowered to reach out for support.

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From social conditioning to transitioning

The ghoulish industry of mutilating, castrating and sterilising children first requires our young to have their identities disrupted.

For this lucrative industry to exist and grow, children and youth first need to become overly dissatisfied with, or confused about who they are. That takes programming, ‘educating’, and constant messaging. Marketing. Propaganda. Lies.

Social engineering comes first

“Transing” children starts with social ‘transition’ (such as using a pronoun that is not one’s biological sex, or a made up term), and using a name that is not one’s given name. This usually weakens or shatters the bonds between parent and child (unless the parent encourages or supports it), and shatters the child’s identity into whatever they feel compelled to believe they are or want to become. Hence, identity disrupted. And which by its very nature will likely remain unstable, changeable.

If you were trying to explain this to someone from a part of the world where the queering of society and children has not become commonplace, you’d not be believed. However, a long, slow process of social conditioning of adults had to have happened first… like frogs in slowly heating pots, we are now at a place where no thinking adult would have ever guessed we’d ever be. But how many are thinking, anymore??

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The induced ‘rainbow child’

Elisabeth Cave explains one way this happens - through the education system…

Exposing Identity Disruption

So how did we get to this point?

To oversimplify my explanation of ‘how’ this happened… I can summarise it by saying it was done by capturing: International Human Rights Law, Parliaments, Corporate Policy, Education, the Media, and of course, Finance. If you don’t believe me, please check out my earlier work on Penny Marie, and also Let Kids Be Kids.

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Medicalisation, castration, mutilation of our children

The people and corporations who ‘win’ in the trans industry won’t be happy for our children and youth to stop at social transition. Where’s the money in that?

Big pharma fat-cats rubbing their hands with glee

These are the medical bodies, govt/grant-funded charities, and individuals lobbying for 'gender-affirming healthcare'… as seen here on the PATHA website. (See my recent X post here).

It’s not possible to change someone’s sex. It IS possible to mutilate their genitalia under false hope this will solve their psychological problems.

If you can stomach it, here is an explainer of what I mean. But it’s graphic.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

If you watch this and hear the reference to Planned Parenthood, know that in New Zealand Sexual Wellbeing Aotearoa, (which was Family Planning), is connected to Planned Parenthood. This organisation developed the suite of resources being used in 50% of schools for Relationships and Sexuality Education. Which are endorsed by the Ministry of Education. Are these people Sex Education Experts?? Why are they committed to telling children there are multiple genders that one can choose???

The video about Duncan Matthews is part of a wider investigation, as laid out in this earlier post ‘How Ardern & Robertson Funded The Rainbow Industry’:

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Who is Ann Gillies?

On day one of the NCI, right after she gave her testimony, I had the privilege of meeting Ann and inviting her onto my podcast. What followed was a heartfelt, intelligent discourse, where we found similarities in our personal family stories and our ‘why’… along with recognising our joint deep desire to see healing in the many victims of childhood sexual abuse, incest and deep trauma.

The toughest of topics, addressed

We discuss the intersection of childhood trauma, sexual identity, and the challenges faced within the justice system. Our conversation highlights the importance of parental involvement in education and the systemic issues that hinder children's well-being.

Gillies' journey began with a great personal tragedy: Discovering that her first husband, whom she later learned was homosexual, had sexually abused their three children from infancy. This revelation propelled her into a 25-year career in counselling, focusing on adult survivors of chronic sexual abuse.

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From therapy to advocacy

Her work evolved into advocacy, particularly against policies like Canada’s Conversion Therapy Bill C-4: An Act to amend the Criminal Code (conversion therapy), which outlaws discussions about the potential causes of or change in sexual orientation, especially when linked to trauma.

Elephants in the room

Gillies emphasised the connection between childhood sexual abuse and later sexual expression, including sharing her son’s experience, who identified as homosexual for years due to the abuse he endured (he describes it this ways way himself), only to later leave the LGBTQ community after trauma (not ‘conversion’) therapy.

She also critiqued systemic issues, including the justice system’s failure to convict her ex-husband on incest and sexual abuse charges, despite her son’s testimony, a reality that is all-too common. We also discuss the education system’s role in promoting ideologies that by design disconnect parents from children.

Damaged by the predators among us

Gillies highlighted how predators exploit trusted environments like churches and schools, and how current policies shield such behaviours under human rights laws. Her advocacy, detailed in her book Damaged By The Predators Among Us, calls for restoring a Judeo-Christian framework that upholds inherent human dignity and protects children from indoctrination and abuse.

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Dr. Gillies’ work underscores the urgent need for parents to be vigilant and challenge systems that obscure truth and harm children.

Visit Ann’s website, restoringthemozaic.ca, to learn more about her advocacy and order her books on kindle or paperback.

Ann’s National Citizen’s Inquiry testimony, June 19 2025

Watch Ann’s testimony here (timestamp: 4:50:45).

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Trans is an industry, and it’s targeting autistics

Sven and I discuss how the trans (TQ) movement is not a community but a lucrative industry targeting vulnerable youth, especially those with autism, ADHD, or other neurodiverse conditions, using strategies like ‘love bombing’ to exploit their desire for belonging.

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Colorado HB1312 Bill

Sven testified against Colorado's HB1312 “Legal protections for transgender individuals” (passed May 16, 2025), which defines misgendering and deadnaming as coercive control, potentially leading to family separation and forced gender-affirming procedures for children, particularly autistic youth.

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Happening in New Zealand too

I shows examples of two schools in New Zealand who promote gender, trans and queer ideology on students (many more do!)

Additional legislation recently passed in Colorado

Sven briefly explains HB1309 ‘Protect Access to Gender Affirming Healthcare’, which forces taxpayers to fund gender-affirming procedures but excludes detransitioners and others needing reconstructive surgeries, calling it discriminatory.

Solutions focussed

Sven is working to establish his own organization for autistic individuals, to provide a voice for autistic youth. Follow, contact, donate to Sven as he steps his calling to help his peers, culminating in an Autism Awareness Day event in Denver on April 2, 2026.

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How I first encountered Sven…

I was sent a video of Sven opposing the HB1312 bill in Colorado while I was researching the kids pride/trans event at an NZ high school. His words fitted in with what I found here.

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Autism agencies captured

Here are some Autistic agencies in the US that promote trans… seeing is believing.

• HRC | Celebrating Autism Acceptance Month as a Member of the LGBTQ+

• Mental Health Among Autistic LGBTQ Youth | The Trevor Project

• Autistic and Neurodivergent programme – LGBT Foundation

• LGBTQ - Autistic Self Advocacy Network

• Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network (AWN)

• LGBTQIA+ and Autism - Autism Research Institute

• Gender-affirming care for transgender autistic youth | Autism Speaks

• Autism and gender identity | Autism Speaks

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Who authorised it? What is the meaning behind it?

I'm not an 'anti transgender extremist' for asking why we need to have these flags flying at parliament (or anywhere).

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Significance of flags

Flags flown outside or inside state buildings are powerful symbols of sovereignty, identity, and governance.

• Outside, they project state authority and civic pride to the public

• Inside, they reinforce the legitimacy of state institutions and preserve historical narratives.

Flag display is governed by protocol, and their presence often carries emotional and political weight, reflecting both unity and, at times, societal tensions. Why then are sexual identity flags flying? Maybe, just maybe, it’s not about sexual identity. Maybe it’s something bigger. But we aren’t allowed to ask, because if we do, apparently we’re transphobic homophobic bigots. Concerning??

Are trans rights activists a hate group, calling us a hate group?

Watch my recent explainer… decide for yourself.

In the video I made of parliament today, the NZ national flag is flying in the background to the left and the multiple sexual identity flags appear to be flying on separate poles at the same height.

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Why are the (ever growing) range of FICTIONAL sexual identity flags found flying outside state buildings, on courthouses, at schools etc etc. Why are sexual identity flags being flown and handed to school children in a myriad different forms?

These flags should not even exist, as they denote gang-like, tribal segregation. Micro targeting a population to define their ‘difference’ is how a nation falls, NOT how it succeeds.

Will a flag help someone who requires medical or psychological support?

There are only two sexes

The actual number of people who categorise themselves as ‘trans or non-binary’ is… wait for it… 0.7% of the adult population in NZ.

The rest of us, know that we are either male, or female. Born that way, will always be that way. No matter what our sexual preference is.

Also, 95.7% are heterosexual. Of the remaining 4.3%, most of these are lesbian or gay.

So the % of people who are getting all the funding, all the policies, all the accolades, all the attention… (which are not the lesbian and gay groups within the LGBTQ sector of society)… means that the TQ groups are getting all the things.

Read this week’s article in The Centrist for more details on the graph above.

What can you and I do?

I am not a big one for angry mobs. Mobs and protests are currently being used to stoke the fire, as Mike Benz explains (in the Hate Group video above).

And as we saw in February 2022, no-one inside the Beehive was listening.

The media intentionally uses any questioning or criticism of anything pride/trans related to turn it back on the well meaning people who see exactly what this is.

I’m keen to chat to people with real, workable ideas, solutions. For me, it starts at home, and in your community. And in your jobs. If you’re being forced to attend rainbow training…. maybe it’s time to say NO. Maybe you’ll start the turn of the tide.

Listen to the words of this song, by Tracy Chapman….

One suggestion

A suggestion shared with me this morning from someone on the ‘inside’ is to email the Speakers Office in NZ Parliament, and CC in NZFirst. NZFirst are the only political party that appear to not have attended Big Gay Out, and that are pushing back against DEI takeover. Which, of course is why the media is doing all it can to disrepute them.

I don’t know how much Winston and NZFirst can or will do, but letting them hear your voice can’t make things any worse, at this stage.

• Speakers’ Office email: speakers.office@parliament.govt.nz

• NZ First email: Nzfirst@parliament.govt.nz

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In the Relationships & Sexuality Education curriculum there are NO COMPULSORY TOPICS.

Read about this in the Let Kids Be Kids post from 2024. It references a document from the Ministry of Education that all parents and teachers tasked with teaching sex(uality) education should take a look at…

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OIA to Ministry Of Education Reveals Significant Finding

Today, July 31st, we received an Official Information Act response from Erica Stanford - Education Minister…

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Have your say - before May 9th

Check out Bob McCroskries’ recent post with advice and links to complete the RSE Framework Consultation…

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McBlog: Speak Up On New RSE Framework

The draft relationships and sexuality education (RSE) framework was quietly published on the 11 April…

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Please put your feedback in before May 9th - you can rest assured the Greens/Labour pushers of sexualisation of our kids and gender ideology will be...

On Benjamin Doyle

Yesterday I posted on X and Facebook a video that Benjamin Doyle posted only 2 days prior, in which he calls for his community and Green Party supporters to complete the RSE Framework consultation… (read Doyle’s Green MP Bio including his portfolios. Read Greens Education Policy).

If you want to know why I have highlighted that PPTA (Post Primary Teachers Association - IE the secondary school teachers union) follows him, see this post by Let Kids Be Kids… they are all connected and they are making their connections abundantly clear).

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The Queering Of New Zealand Children Via The Education System

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Yesterday’s X post…

Matua Kahurangi then posted this Substack…

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Opinion: Why Is Ben "Bussy" Doyle still allowed anywhere near the sex ed conversation?

This week, Green MP Benjamin "Bussy" Doyle resurfaced on his locked-down Instagram, posting a video urging his "rainbow gang" to respond to the government's draft Relationships and Sexuality Education Framework, which will shape New Zealand's school curriculum by 2027. He highlighted that feedback submissions close on May 9, 2025, and stressed the Minis…

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I want to point out a couple of parts of his video

1. He talks about the 2007 curriculum … we cannot find reference to what he is lobbying for. Watch the entire video from me: The Battle For Common Sense In Education.

2. He includes Sexual Wellbeing Aotearoa in his comments. Let Kids Be Kids has been raising alarm bells about their suite of resources ‘Navigating The Journey’ since late 2023.

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Parents need to know what’s in these resources, that apparently 50% of NZ schools are using in one form or another. It doesn’t mean all schools are teaching the worst of it… by why are they in there at all? Because they are endorsed by the Ministry of Education, that’s why.

I previously made this video about the Doyle saga and why the media is backing him…

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• We Came Here For Freedom - Produced by Alistair Harding

• River of Freedom - Produced by Gaylene Barnes

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I have chosen to move through this period of my life, and am committed to informing and empowering as many people as possible, to stand in their truth unwavering, to never let tyrannical powers overrule your own ethics and morals.

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Mainstream media is rather quiet about this important case, which will set a precedent for future cases where workplace policies may be called into question during the COVID-19 Injection rollout and mandates in New Zealand.

Most of the 33 plaintiffs are pilots

Pilots are the best in the business at following best available data and due process. Lives depend on them doing so. They would not have made their decisions to decline the mRNA injection lightly, so we wait with bated breath to see the judge's ruling on this (likely in approx 3 months time).

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In the full video I uncover just shy of $3 million of taxpayer money funnelled into this industry under the guise of “wellbeing” for the rainbow youth. And that’s just a tiny bit of the bigger picture. This particular trail started in 2019 with then Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Finance Minister Grant Robertson.

I break it down, follow the trail, and question what’s really going on.

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The full video here…

A good idea gone wrong?

In 2019, Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson set up the Rainbow Wellbeing Legacy Fund with a $1 million endowment. The fund was created as a way to acknowledge men who were convicted of homosexual acts pre-1986.

The Homosexual Law Reform Act 1986 decriminalised consensual sex between men over 16, and by 2018, those convictions were expunged. Job done, right?

So why did Ardern and Robertson, alongside a few friends, decide to create a fund for ‘youth’ - and not homosexual youth, but the whole rainbow spectrum (which back in the 1980’s didn’t even exist…)?

Follow the money: $2.9 million and counting

The initial $1 million was just the start.

• By 2021, the government added another $800,000, and

• Foundation North chipped in $99,999 (why not just round it to $100,000?).

• In 2022, another $100,000 came from Foundation North, and

• by 2024, they’d been given even more from the NZ Government.

• I counted $2.9 million in a few years, managed by the Rule Foundation.

And that’s just what I started to track - it’s the tip of a very big iceberg.

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Think about that - they’re not addressing a proven need; They’re building (have now built) an infrastructure to create the need. The Rainbow Wellbeing Legacy Fund 2024 document even says it’s for “future generations,” hinting they’re shaping a demographic that doesn’t yet exist - or they want to grow.

The resources prove it’s about activism, not support

So where does the money go? In the video I take a look at just one of the many charities that receive these funds. Gender Minorities Aotearoa, which produces resources including:

• ‘Anti-Transgender Extremism’ and

• ‘Being Trans and Protesting’.

These aren’t about supporting vulnerable kids - they’re about creating activists.

The NZ Police on-side with the rainbow industry

The latter document, aimed at ‘transgender anarchists’, describes ‘trans peoples’ rights to be searched by police of your chosen gender and insists on communicating with NZ Police Diversity Liaison Officers (yes, there is such a role in the Police!).

This charity is funded by the NZ Government (your taxpayer dollar) via the Rule Foundation, yet it’s pushing a political agenda. I didn’t think that was allowed.

Even the New Zealand Police website links to the Anti Transgender Extremism book, along with a whole raft of other resources that I think most people would agree do not belong on a police website. Why does this group get so much attention while other minorities don’t?

Questions need to be asked.

More about this here…

The mental health industry: A created crisis?

The funding of this ‘industry’ ties into a broader mental health crisis that seems to be manufactured. The Rainbow Wellbeing Legacy Fund emphasises mental health, yet there was no data in 2019 showing a specific need for rainbow youth.

Fast forward, and we’ve got a Minister of Mental Health, Matt Doocey, who pushed the Conversion Practices Prohibition Legislation Act 2022.

This legislation makes it illegal to question a child who is confused about their ‘gender’. Saying, “Hey, maybe wait a bit before deciding you’re in the wrong body.” is now labeled as conversion therapy, while affirming a child’s ‘gender confusion’ isn’t? Horrific. But in legislation.

We discuss Dr. Steven Stosny’s pyramid of IDENTITY (see Elisabeth Cave explaining it during the Let Kids Be Kids 2024 Road Show). A healthy identity is rooted in basic humanity and character - think honesty, resilience, kindness. But when kids hyperfocus on gender or sexuality (upper rungs of the pyramid), their identity destabilises, leading to distress and dysphoria.

Who’s cashing in?

Many names keep popping up. In the video I take a look at Duncan Matthews, Treasurer of the Rule Foundation. He’s also a funding assessor for Foundation North, and has an eye-watering list of affiliations with ‘rainbow’ charities, as well as PATHA - Professional Association of Transgender Healthcare Aotearoa, (linked to WPATH), and he’s even on the board of the Ministry of Youth Development.

In 2025, Matthews got an Order of Merit for services to the rainbow community. One guy, so many roles, all connected to this multi million $$ industry. Coincidence? I think not.

My why: Protecting our kids

This isn’t just about money - it’s about our kids’ wellbeing. I’m a parent, and I talk to heartbroken parents and grandparents daily. We’re seeing kids pushed into an adult world of sexual identity way too soon, and the system is profiting off their confusion.

Media collusion

Don’t wait for mainstream media to adequately report on it. MSM has shown itself to be supporting the rainbow industry. I explain why, here…

What to do?

If you’ve got kids or grandkids, please take a good look at what’s going on here. And talk to others. Most people don’t want to talk about it. It’s too hard, too big. Or they have been too convinced that to question all the rainbow barrage is ‘transphobic’.

If you have no one to talk to - come talk to Let Kids Be Kids.

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Penny Marie

Please check out my social media links & recent work. I have been independently researching, writing and sharing peoples stories since 2021. In September 2023 I formed Let Kids Be Kids.

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Previously he has worked at The Burnett Foundation and has taught at: Auckland Grammar, Manurewa High School, Melville High School and Rototuna High School.

We discuss:

• Is the media gagged? If so, why?

• An alarming Thesis by Doyle.

• If you're not trans or their ally, you're apparently a Colonial Nazi Fascist.

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We encourage you to download and read Doyle’s Thesis, and view the links below to inform yourself on the bigger picture, in particular the Gender Minorities manifesto on ‘Anti-Transgender Extremism’.

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Highlights

• 3:15 - Winston Peters' X post asking media to investigate Doyle

• 4:00 - Radio NZ: Call for Prime Minister to step in over Winston Peters comments about Green MP

• 18:02 - Pride Pledge

• 21:28 - The Queering of NZ Children Via The Education System - by Let Kids Be Kids, incl ref to 'Sexualising children? The rise of Comprehensive Sexuality Education’ - MCC Brussels & Dr Joanna Williams

• 22:05 - Rainbow Tick, Toitu Takatapui

• 24:40 - Winston Peters: I'm asking the mainstream media why won't you do your job and question the Greens?

• 26:52 - Doyle's Thesis at Waikato University: Mana Takatāpui: Self-determination for queer rangatahi Māori 2023

• 34:38 - NZ Connections To USAID In The LGBTQIA+ Industry - Penny Marie

• 36:38 - Gender Minorities - Activism and the Anti-Transgender Extremism Manifesto

• 46:33 - NZ Green Party's Rainbow Strategy

• 51:34 - Contact Let Kids Be Kids

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Penny Marie founded Let Kids Be Kids in September 2023. Much of her research and advocacy work relates to the identity disruption and sexualisation of our children and teens.

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Lynda Wharton is founder of The Health Forum NZ, established in early 2021 to support covid injection injured people, and families who have lost loved ones following the injection.

Lynda had been watching the Covid injection warp-speed rollout in the USA, England, Europe and Israel, and watching the government owned Adverse Event databases, in UK and USA in particular.

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She saw very quickly that there was a rapid escalation of adverse events, and the alarming number of very serious adverse events and deaths. Usually these databases, which are ‘early warning systems’ for vaccines, mostly report a variety of less severe events, such as fevers and sore arms…however following the covid injection rollout there were growing reports of heart attacks, strokes, neurological damage and deaths. The VAERS Database in USA is known to report about 1% of total events, and even so, the high numbers and severity of events caused Lynda to take action.

NZ’s front-runner for truth and scientific data

Out of sheer frustration of not seeing anyone else in New Zealand speaking out about what was about to happen here, following suit of countries who had rolled out their ‘vaccine’ schedule ahead of us, Lynda created a Facebook forum, and started sharing reports and evidence from overseas, to enable kiwis to understand the risks. Her Facebook following grew to over 58,000 before it was de-platformed after 9 months.

She was regularly banned on Facebook for 90 days at a time, for mentioning such science as the effectiveness of Ivermectin, evidence of causal link between the injection and myocarditis, and even for speaking about the benefits of zinc and Vitamin D.

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Citizens Database of serious adverse events and post-injection deaths

Lynda and her team are committed to this significant piece of work. They have gathered extensive family reported, detailed medical data of many kiwi’s who have experienced Serious Adverse Events, or death, after the covid injection.

Lynda is confident that one day soon this evidence will form the basis of a legal action, seeking acknowledgement, justice and compensation for all those who have suffered at the hands of a poorly tested experimental, “warp speed” injection.

A second, more observational data base, records New Zealand deaths in those people confirmed to have received covid injections. This includes many deaths in mandated sectors. While no claims can be made about a “causal” connection, many of the deaths are “sudden and unexpected” in otherwise healthy young people. Many deaths also have a short time frame of (hours, days or a week or two) between injection and death. Both obvious “red flags” worthy of detailed analysis by authorities.

The deaths database currently includes:

• 25 children under age 18 who have died in unusual or unexpected deaths.

• 767 deaths in total that are temporally related "not confirmed as causal” link to the Covid Pfizer injections.

This data has been provided by NZDSOS to NZ authorities, including the Prime Minister, Minister of Health and Director General of Health on numerous occasions, with requests to halt the vaccine rollout.

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If you have suffered an adverse event post-injection, or you are experiencing health complications that cannot otherwise be explained, you are invited to make a report to the Health Forum confidential database, using the website form at www.thehealthforumnz.co.nz.

Brave is beautiful, courage is contagious

The most beautiful part of this conversation is the raw courage of one woman who found her brave, and who continues to find it daily. Lynda and her amazing team courageously carry out their often harrowing work, on behalf of those who have been damaged by the New Zealand Government’s demands.

Update: Our recent conversation, 4 March 2025…

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Penny Marie founded Let Kids Be Kids in September 2023. Much of her research and advocacy work relates to the identity disruption and sexualisation of our children and teens.

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